pbug tourney on twitch blatant aimbot

[SultryPleasure]

one specific example is in the current game on Miramar, one guy from 4AM was spraying with a red dot from a distance of about 75-100 meters, with virtually no recoil. 

i never played so blatantly. so i am confused, what does a non-cheater player think when they suspect aimbot use in a tournament, because they've had practice banning people so they should be reasonably familiar with it. 

and then what do the pubg developers think when they see it? are they hypocrites by tactical choice, or what is going on here? their anti cheat is strong, evidenced by how long it is taking our club back online, but where is it during the tournament? do those MF sons of bitches turn off their anti cheat for the tourney??? 

[SultryPleasure]

about that 4AM spray, he stopped it within a second of being notified that the "main stage camera" or "40,000+ observers" was on him. there are constantly similar blatant incidents in every tournament game, and of course the commentators aren't saying "4AM player not worried about getting banned as he holds down his aimbot key"  

[how02]

Do you have a clip?

[SultryPleasure]

this isn't the clip i described earlier, but also a good example of locking on with aimbot.

look at 3:28:40 - he sprays a car left to right at maybe 60 meters, lands every bullet, then another perfect spray on a car at maybe 120 meters, then finishes off the guy at maybe 50 meters and lands every bullet again  

[SultryPleasure]

start at 2:37:47

[SultryPleasure]

at 2:37:10 player Godv pulls up as though he is hunting the dude in the car who rolls of the cliff and somehow the car doesn't end up on its roof (looked like auto-correct, not sure, haven't played since february). then player PeRo is holding down aimbot as he takes out the first guy, then he's still holding the button as the mouse slowly and computer-like transfers to the next target.

at 2:38:01 player Godv is spraying with a red dot from an impossible range (100+ meters) also with aimbot or some recoil dampener , then realizes he has a high observer count and backs off -- it seems the camera has to catch them in the act, otherwise they are reluctant

PeRo might be the better example because the camera catches him right in the act of aimbot, and with the action starting he gets a high viewer count, but either he doesn't see it or doesn't care. the way every shot lands on the first target, then the "transfer" or what the hells kind of movement is that at 2:37:53

[SultryPleasure]

it's as though PeRo does not have player ESP, so he uses the aimbot to show him the way after the first kill

[SultryPleasure]

just watched game 2 live (i can post the timestamps later, if you're interested) on Erangel PUBG Continental Series 3: APAC - Day 4

and everyone is blatantly locking on through smoke, through walls, through the ground, through trees.. they are all try hard cheating

[SultryPleasure]

so they are perfectly comfortable to show blatant try-hard cheating in the tournaments, maybe because pubg devs intended to create a huge cheat market and then provide the cheats, playing both sides. maybe this could only exist in asia where demand is high, but not in the western world where trying too hard at video games is a turn off.

but how strong is pubg's anti cheat enforcement? as a club member here, we have all felt the pain. as a viewer of the twitch stream, anti-cheat is simply non-existent. that is not some mistake made along the way, unless there is a conflict between the developers and the tournament hosts who insist no anti cheat be used during the broadcast. 

every time the player notices his sudden viewer count they start with unnatural behavior seemingly intended to remove the viewer count due to boredom on the part of the viewer (this may even be contractual behavior, where "reasonable measures" are taken on the part of the cheater to chill out during the sudden viewer count segments)! so the viewer is a curse for the battle because the players with no viewer count remain try-hard aggressive. but a viewer count arrives and they suddenly start reloading with half a mag while the target remains visible, disengaging awkwardly and seeming refusing to open fire, meds or any other activity besides having to engage the other cheaters who don't have the viewer count. 

one could easily conclude that the cheat clubs in/for asia flourish while the english speaking market is the slave to any try-hard using some proxy-wagon. adding to the confusion from earlier, the english speaking club members wonders what happened to his tools at his favorite club?

is pubg anti cheat targeting english speaking clubs because it is part of their business strategy regarding the two marketplaces? 

if pubg and the tournament have an actual conflict, maybe the pubg devs decided to ignore the poor representation of their game to viewers of the tournaments, and try to enforce anti cheat to some unknown extent.

what would happen if the plebs in twitch chat copy pasted "cheater versus cheater equilibrium" -- ban by chat moderator probably. 

maybe pubg devs would be so corrupt and cunning as to be partial owners of some of the cheating clubs while targeting others with bans. there was a time that the pubg ban would take a couple weeks to recover from. club members are approaching a year of downtime. meanwhile the tournament shows non stop cheating. 

anyone know what's going on?

[Akandesh]

This is some /r/VACsucks type of stuff. Imo what i saw didnt look sus and PUBG is known for glitchy/unrealistic GOTV anyways.

[BadBoy25550]

On 11/14/2020 at 3:48 PM, SultryPleasure said:

this isn't the clip i described earlier, but also a good example of locking on with aimbot.

look at 3:28:40 - he sprays a car left to right at maybe 60 meters, lands every bullet, then another perfect spray on a car at maybe 120 meters, then finishes off the guy at maybe 50 meters and lands every bullet again  

Looks legit to me?

[SultryPleasure]

1:30:20 shooting impossibly fast, with impossible lack of recoil and accuracy

1:33:24 shooting impossibly fast, with impossible lack of recoil and accuracy

1:33:55 the spray follows the car in an impossible manner

1:34:52 no recoil shooting the window, stops when the camera is on him

1:37:25 killed through smoke

literally every spray looks aimbot assisted, i don't have the patience to rewatch that match but there are blatant examples  

@BadBoy25550 even the way he traces upwards with his sniper shots?

@Akandesh  i don't believe that their replays accidentally glitch to make it look like everyone is mass cheating. legit sprays have a lot more recoil and are impossible to control from side to side, at the exact speed of the car, at every engagement. vacsucks has lots of examples of exactly this but you are not suspicious?

[SultryPleasure]

i know the little game we play where we deny it to the plebeians who get too curious in voice chat, but it doesn't make sense to deny it , or to be unskeptical about the tournament players, unless you are somehow involved in the tournament and are interested in keeping up the deception

[SultryPleasure]

here's the way it looks to me. what do you think?

through smoke connects at huge range

he gives it away by un-zooming and quickly re-zooming, then the aimbot tells him the enemy position, unnatural movements and briefly locks on through the trees  

unnatural movement, he moves the mouse far left, probably checking for more enemies, then opens fire in an aimbot manner, doesn't try to carefully lead the crosshair in front but rather snaps to target

he realizes he has a viewer count and does the most boring thing he can imagine, seemingly go afk

they through a smoke, wait for it to bloom, then peek with aimbot (we don't see this, but its obvious)

aimbot through the smoke

unnatural scanning movements, right to left scan of the sky

as the car moves left to right, the shooter alternates between aimbot and repositioning the crosshair manually in front of the car. he has action until 1:44:35

looks like aimbot the way the mouse snaps onto target for two of the first shots firedblatant locked on aimbot through the toilet walls, then locks on again through the barrels

his aimbot is doing the predictive work but he is clicking too fast for smoothening factor to connect properly

downs the moving target with 3 consecutive body hits, then lets the aimbot trace the slow movement of the downed opponent moving left, between shots, no issues with recoil at all , then becomes aware of viewers and runs around without action

crosshair on the enemies through the walls rather than peeking anywhere useful, then targets him down with aimbot, then awkwardly and quickly closes zoom and re-opens it

locks on to target through the car before peek

doing that peek-a-boo style of fast peek and fire with aimbot, locks on to target through the rocks, goes to the other window to blatantly lock on through the walls

no recoil on the first target, snaps to second target

 

 

[SultryPleasure]

locking on through the ground

FIXED timing from previous--looks like aimbot the way the mouse snaps onto target for two of the first shots fired , blatant locked on aimbot through the toilet walls, then locks on again through the barrels

[SultryPleasure]

FIXED timing -- his aimbot is doing the predictive work but he is clicking too fast for smoothening factor to connect properly

[SultryPleasure]

FIXED timing crosshair on the enemies through the walls rather than peeking anywhere useful, then targets him down with aimbot, then awkwardly and quickly closes zoom and re-opens it

FIXED timing doing that peek-a-boo style of fast peek and fire with aimbot, locks on to target through the rocks, goes to the other window to blatantly lock on through the walls

[SultryPleasure]

sorry but twitch does not allow exact timing jumps so all my timings are off

[SultryPleasure]

my original confusion remains. if 35 teams of cheaters are being broadcasted in the tournaments, it suggests that (1) pubg devs have no scruples about cheaters in their game, or (2) they designed it intentionally this way and they go hard after cheating outside of the tournaments, or (3) something else is going on such as pubg have paid off BSS because pubg devs own other cheating companies.

(1) cannot be true because our club has been down for 3/4 of the year.   

[SultryPleasure]

can anyone explain why does PUBG broadcast blatant aimbot battles between 35 teams, which suggests they are first of all retarded bastards but also that they are soft on anti cheat, but actually they are giving our Boss a hard time ?   

[koshaan]

Hahaha clear aimbot use here https://clips.twitch.tv/RichStormySpindleShazBotstix

[SultryPleasure]

@koshaan there was a game yesterday on Erangel, and the guy cycled between 3 targets behind walls. it has become so routine for the players, they don't even hide it well. cheater versus cheater style of play does not resemble a regular looking fight. if a new player watched the tournament, and then decided to try pbug for the first time, he would realize that his expectations were betrayed. experienced players are all scratching their heads why there is blatant aimbot, i guess

[SultryPleasure]

so PUBG is advertised in the tournaments as a discreet pay to win -- this is a likely conclusion from observing the blatant aimbot. so similar to world of tanks, where players must pay to win. it only makes sense that pubg would be involved in the cheating market considering the way they present their game to the world. 

[oopsigotbanned]

The client they use for tournaments is different to that what we play so perhaps there is no anticheat as you say